blocks|key|4654310|text|除了Prado之外，还有一个更活跃的yii框架。另外，作为一个类似ASP.NET的平台，我可以推荐Embarcadero+RadPHP，它是HTML5+/RadPHP的最新版本|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|4654311|entityMap^0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|D|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|-4|5|6|7|E|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|C|$]]

Besides Prado there is yii framework which is much more active. Also as an ASP.NET like platform I can recommend Embarcadero HTML5 Builder which is the latest version of Delphi4PHP/RadPHP

blocks|key|1037084|text|你是说像php-GTK这样的东西吗？http://gtk.php.net/|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|offset|length|data|1037085|或者更像RIApplications，比如客户端的Flash和服务器端的php/flex？|1037086|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://gtk.php.net/^0|I|J|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|N|8|@]|9|@$A|O|B|P|1|Q]]|C|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|R|8|@]|9|@]|C|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|S|8|@]|9|@]|C|$]]]|G|$H|$5|I|J|K|C|$L|M]]]]

do you mean something like php-GTK ? <a href="http://gtk.php.net/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://gtk.php.net/</a>

or more like RIApplications like Flash on the client and php/flex on server side ?

blocks|key|3186481|text|你可以看看我几年前开发的Tigermouse+Framework。这似乎就是你要找的东西。它具有这种web表单方法，您可以定义视图和表单，在其上放置其他控件，并分配事件，然后在服务器端处理这些事件。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|offset|length|data|3186482|看一下这个简单的拖放shopping+cart+app，然后看看source+code。|3186483|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://tigermouse.epsi.pl/|1|http://tigermouse.epsi.pl/live-demo/index.php?action=DndCtrl/show|2|http://tigermouse.epsi.pl/live-demo/ctrl/DndCtrl.class.phps^0|C|K|0|0|A|H|1|W|B|2|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|R|8|@]|9|@$A|S|B|T|1|U]]|C|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|V|8|@]|9|@$A|W|B|X|1|Y]|$A|Z|B|10|1|11]]|C|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|12|8|@]|9|@]|C|$]]]|G|$H|$5|I|J|K|C|$L|M]]|N|$5|I|J|K|C|$L|O]]|P|$5|I|J|K|C|$L|Q]]]]

You may have a look at <a href="http://tigermouse.epsi.pl/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Tigermouse Framework</a> I developed years ago. It seems to be exactly what you are looking for. It has this web-form approach, where you define views and forms, put other controls on it and assign events which then are handled on server side.

Have a look a this simple Drag-n-drop <a href="http://tigermouse.epsi.pl/live-demo/index.php?action=DndCtrl/show" rel="nofollow noreferrer">shopping cart app</a> and see the <a href="http://tigermouse.epsi.pl/live-demo/ctrl/DndCtrl.class.phps" rel="nofollow noreferrer">source code</a>.

blocks|key|871042|text|有一个很棒的软件Delphi4PHP，它可以让你像asp.net一样进行php开发/组件创建，它是visual+studio或可视化的。它还有很棒的视觉库VLC+(Visual+Component+Library)，允许您使用拖放支持来创建元素。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|offset|length|data|871043|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://www.delphi-php.net/^0|8|A|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|L|8|@]|9|@$A|M|B|N|1|O]]|C|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|P|8|@]|9|@]|C|$]]]|E|$F|$5|G|H|I|C|$J|K]]]]

There is a great piece of software <a href="http://www.delphi-php.net/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Delphi4PHP</a> that allows you to do do php development/component creation like asp.net that is visual studio or visually. It also has great visual library VLC (Visual Component Library) which allows you to create elements using the drag and drop support.

blocks|key|4654178|text|考虑到PHP的首字母缩写代表(+PHP+)超文本预处理器，并且所有将PHP用于桌面开发的方法本质上都是一种技巧，我认为不是。绝对不是天生的。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|4654179|我建议将PHP留给预处理超文本和构建桌面软件的专用解决方案;-)|4654180|entityMap^0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|F|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|G|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|E|$]]

Considering the acronym for PHP stands for (PHP) Hypertext Preprocessor, and all the methods to get PHP used for desktop development is essentially a hack, I'd so no. Definitely not natively.

I'd advise leaving PHP for pre-processing hyper-text and dedicated solutions for building desktop software ;-)

blocks|key|4654272|text|你似乎对你想要在这里实现的目标感到有点困惑。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|4654273|为了将客户端事件与服务器端处理绑定在一起，Prado做了很多工作。这不是关于构建复杂的逻辑逻辑。此外，PHP不适合传统的应用服务器模型，如Java或ASP.NET实现的模型-然而，当拥有应用服务器的原因主要是为了克服这些语言在web开发中的缺点时，这并不是一件坏事。OTOH+PHP的无共享模型在极少数领域可能很突出(例如，考虑文件锁队列的问题)。|4654274|根据您对ASP.NET的描述，您是否认为PHP不适合这些类型的任务？如果有什么方法可以在不同的上下文中重用同一个类就好了？(！)|4654275|我对大多数PHP工具包/框架的不满是，它们试图满足每个人的需求，但最终在特定领域表现不佳。这并不是说没有好的专注于此的工具，例如ADOdb，jpgraph，Smarty。前段时间，我开发了一个表单绘制工具，旨在与PfP应用程序集成(+PHP+)，也许有一天我会抽出时间来完成它。然而，对于您所使用的框架，当然有很多可供选择，而不必求助于抽象表示，如Prado或元数据库所使用的表示。CakePHP，Symfony，Zend和部落突然浮现在脑海中，但还有其他的。我猜PHP与.NET或J2EE的不同之处在于没有人告诉你必须使用他们的解决方案。|4654276|结果表明，C.|4654277|entityMap^0|0|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|L|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|M|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|N|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|6|7|O|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|I|5|6|7|P|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|J|3|-4|5|6|7|Q|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|K|$]]

You seem to be a bit confused about what you are trying to achieve here.

Prado does a lot to bind together client side events with server side processing. Its not about structuring complex logic logic. Also PHP does not lend itself to a conventional applications server model such as that implemented by Java or ASP.NET - however INHO that is not a bad thing when the reason for having application servers is mostly to overcome the short-comings of these languages for web development. OTOH there are a very small number of areas where the shared nothing model of PHP can be obtrusive (consider the problem of file lock queuing, for example).

Presumably from your description of ASP.NET you think that PHP is not suitable for these kind of tasks? If only there was some way I could reuse the same class in different contexts? (!!!!!!)

My beef with most of the toolkits/frameworks for PHP is they attempt to provide for everyones needs and end up being somewhat poor in specific areas. That's not to say that aren't good focussed tools out there, e.g. ADOdb, jpgraph, Smarty. Some time ago I worked on a form painter tool intended to be integrated with PHP apps (PfP Studio) maybe one day I'll get round to finishing it off. However there is certainly plenty of choice as to which framework you use without having to resort to abstract representations such as those used by Prado or metabase. CakePHP, Symfony, Zend and Horde spring to mind but there are others. I guess the difference with PHP compared to .NET or J2EE is nobody's telling you that you must use their solution.

C.

Edit: The question concerns 100% web development only. Please do not relate the question to desktop development. Please read the entire question before responding.

I am certainly interested if there is currently any interest in developing PHP applications in a more desktop-like fashion. I mean something like the classic WebForms implementation of ASP.NET where components encapsulating the domain, the business and the UI logic are sort of put together in a page(the application) and they "talk" to each other through events that are handled by the master app. Additionally the master page could set some component parameters when declaring them. It might not be the choice of the day for many developers, but certainly there are uses for that, just as there are uses for ASP.NET - heavy data centric applications, intranet apps, or applications, where certain component logic is to be reused many times with different input parameters, and different results are expected. 

From what I know, there used to be something like this - a framework called PRADO, of whose existence I am no longer sure. The site is still there, but I guess that community work is slow. 

I will be glad to hear answers, and of course criticism. I will be glad to know any current development, and why not, use cases for that.

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