blocks|key|223972|text|对于程序员来说，拥有软件开发、部署、运行时环境、安全性和安全性所有方面的总体视图视图是至关重要的。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|offset|length|style|BOLD|entityRanges|data|223973|否则，可能会犯下“无害的错误”，导致代价高昂的结果，最终的结果是生产力降低(甚至更糟)。|223974|充分了解如何工作以满足您的环境的总体要求，但您不需要知道如何使它们工作。|223975|entityMap^0|10|4|0|0|4|4|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|L|8|@$9|M|A|N|B|C]]|D|@]|E|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|6|7|O|8|@]|D|@]|E|$]]|$1|H|3|I|5|6|7|P|8|@$9|Q|A|R|B|C]]|D|@]|E|$]]|$1|J|3|-4|5|6|7|S|8|@]|D|@]|E|$]]]|K|$]]

It is critical for a programmer to have a Big Picture view of all aspects of software development, deployment, runtime environment, safety, and security.

Otherwise, "innocent mistakes" can be made that have very costly results, and the net effect is one of diminished productivity (or worse).

Know enough about how things work to satisfy the Big Picture for your environment, but you do not need to know how to make them work.

blocks|key|2617128|text|拥有额外的技能总是有帮助的。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|2617129|我认识一些非常强大的开发人员，他们无法在windows中连接打印机。这有点滑稽。|2617130|如果您计划进行网络编程-养成使用ethereal/wireshark并查看数据包的习惯。最终它会得到回报的。|2617131|entityMap^0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|I|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|J|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|K|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|G|$]]

Having extra skills always helps.

I knew very strong developers who could not connect a printer in windows. Which is kind of funny.

If you plan to do network programming - develop a habit to use ethereal/wireshark and look at packets. Eventually it will pay off.

blocks|key|4004041|text|了解足够多的知识，你可以在软件工程工作中解决问题并完成任务。我知道的不多，以至于人们把你误认为是sys管理员，并开始打电话给你来完成日常的系统维护任务。以下是一些你应该知道的建议：|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|4004042|如何在deployment+system|4004043|Understand+machine(s)|unordered-list-item|4004044|
|4004045|Install+troubleshooting|4004046|
上登录到deployment+system|4004047|Access+logs|4004048|Install/restart您的应用程序，并能够在开发machine(s)|4004049|Install上安装近似值，部署数据库和其他基础架构服务(如JMS)，以及基本监视和troubleshooting|4004050|4004051|显然，我是从web-app的角度来看待这个问题的。也许其他人可以提出更一般的建议？|4004052|entityMap^0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|X|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|Y|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|F|7|Z|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|G|3|H|5|6|7|10|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|I|3|J|5|F|7|11|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|K|3|L|5|6|7|12|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|M|3|N|5|F|7|13|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|O|3|P|5|F|7|14|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|Q|3|R|5|F|7|15|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|S|3|-4|5|6|7|16|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|T|3|U|5|6|7|17|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|V|3|-4|5|6|7|18|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|W|$]]

Know enough that you can solve problems and get stuff done at your Software Engineering job. Don't know so much that people confuse you for a sys admin and start calling you for routine system maintenance tasks. A few suggestions on what you should know:

<ul>
<li>How to log into the deployment system</li>
<li>Access logs</li>
<li>Install/restart your application on the deployment system</li>
<li>Understand your production deployment topology and be able to install an approximation on your development machine(s)</li>
<li>Install and deploy your database and other infrastructure services (such as JMS), as well as basic monitoring and troubleshooting</li>
</ul>

Obviously I'm taking a web-app point of view here. Maybe others can make more general suggestions?

blocks|key|4004095|text|这取决于你所在的领域！当我(直到最近)开发集群管理软件时，显然系统管理员和网络专家在我的主要“受众”中，了解和了解他们的任务对我的工作绩效绝对至关重要；现在我正在开发商业智能软件，与理解业务分析师、经济学家、销售/财务/会计人员和战略级别决策者面临的问题相比，所有丰富的系统知识(当然，远非无用；-)的优先级相当低。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|4004096|这两个领域可能有点极端(但不到一年前我确实从一个领域切换到了另一个领域！-)但原则是有效的-如果不了解你所处的应用领域或未来计划进入哪些应用领域，就不可能给出好的答案。|4004097|entityMap^0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|F|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|G|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|E|$]]

It depends on what field you're in! When I worked (until recently) developing cluster management software, obviously system administrators and network specialists where among my main "audiences", and knowing and learning more about their tasks was absolutely crucial to my job performance; now that I work developing Business Intelligence software, all that wealth of sysadm lore (while far from useless, of course;-) is quite low-priority compared to understanding the issues facing business analysts, economists, sales / finance / accounting folks, and strategic - level decision makers.

These two fields may be a bit extreme (but I did switch from one to the other less than a year ago!-) but the principle holds - no good answer can be given without some understanding of what application fields you are in, or plan to move into in the future.

blocks|key|4004170|text|我不明白这类问题。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|4004171|4004172|如果系统管理让你吐了，那就别吐，学点别的吧。你能想象吗？你很擅长系统管理，但你不喜欢这样，你把它写在你的简历上，这样你就能找到一份能承担这些责任的工作！|4004173|基本上，尽可能多地学习你有某种激情的东西！|4004174|entityMap^0|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|I|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|-4|5|6|7|J|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|C|3|D|5|6|7|K|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|E|3|F|5|6|7|L|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|G|3|-4|5|6|7|M|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|H|$]]

I don't get these kind of questions. Its like "how much a programmer should know about life". The answer is always "as much as possible".

First question : Do you like system administration and would you like to know more? If you like that, then learn about it!

If system administration makes you throw up, then don't, learn something else. Do you imagine? You're very good at sys admin but you don't like that, you write it on your resume so you get a job where you get those responsibilities!

Basically, learn as much as you can about things for which you have some kind of passion!

blocks|key|713629|text|我认为你知道的越少(或者让别人知道你知道)越好。我记得在一家公司，人们来我们的房间寻求帮助，解决计算机问题。我总是假装我不知道如何帮助他们，但我的一个同事总是帮助他们-他们得到了免费的IT支持，我认为那个人做错了工作。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|713630|就纯管理员知识而言，这是一个很难回答的问题，我遇到的大多数管理员都不知道如何设置或配置应用程序服务器、数据库、ldap。因此，为了让它们以良好的性能工作，你需要一步一步地指导他们做什么。这些知识真的很有用。|713631|entityMap^0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|F|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|G|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|E|$]]

I think the less you know(or let people know you know) is better. i remember in one company that people came to our room to seek help with computer problems. i always pretended that I dont know how to help them, but one of my co-workers always help them - they got free IT support and i think that guy was in wrong line of work.

as far as pure admin knowledge thats hard question, most admin i met dont know how to set up or configure application servers, databases, ldaps. so to make those work with good performance you need to give them step by step instruction what to do. that knowledge is really usefull.

blocks|key|4004268|text|这真的取决于你用哪种语言编程。我以前做了很多c/c%2B%2B的工作，没有太多的管理工作。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|4004269|但对于web来说，我感觉自己一半的工作是学习如何成为一名系统管理员。只需了解一些系统配置、服务器备份和cronjob，就可以在这里做很多优化工作。|4004270|我们服务器的设置产生了比我在代码中所能优化的更多的性能提升。花一天时间做系统管理员，在整个站点上获得100%25的性能提升，还是花一天时间做程序员，在单个组件上获得100%25的性能提升？任何程序员都会选择成为那一天的系统管理员。|4004271|还有我们网站的自动部署，数据库设置/迁移。这可能是因为我们没有“真正的sysadmin”(初创公司-选择你自己的标题！)，但我看不出如果没有对其背后系统的了解，我怎么能编写好/快速/可靠的web应用程序。|4004272|必须说，随着我最近获得的所有sysadmin知识，作为一名程序员，我开始看到新的可能性和解决方案。所以我的建议是，尽可能多地了解它背后的系统，它会有所回报的。|4004273|entityMap^0|0|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|L|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|M|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|N|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|6|7|O|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|I|5|6|7|P|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|J|3|-4|5|6|7|Q|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|K|$]]

Really depends on which language you program in. I did alot of c/c++ before, not much admin there. 

But for web, it feels like half my work is to learn how to be a sysadmin. So much optimizations can be done here with a little knowledge about system configs, server backups and cronjobs.

The setup of our server yielded more performance gain then I ever could optimize in code. Spend a day as a sysadmin for 100% performance gain all over the site or a day as a programmer for 100% gain in a single component? any programmer would choose to be a sysadmin for that day.

And the there is automatic of deployment of our site, database setup/migration. This might be this way because we don't have a "real sysadmin"(startups - choose your own title!), but I can't see how I can program good/fast/reliable web applications without the of knowledge about the system behind it.

And must say, with all the sysadmin knowledge I gained recently, I'm starting to see new possibilities and solutions as a programmer. So my tip is, learn as much as you can about the system behind it, it will pay of.

How much should a programmer should know about system admin? I mean, obviously the more the better. But for the sake of argument, what is the average a programmer should know?

I have seen my friend ( a programmer) does database schema design, database backup, database tuning, data migration etc. Sometimes I wonder whether he is a programmer or a system admin.

How much a programmer should know about system admin?

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