blocks|key|81525|text|在我看来(这就是我的观点)，对于企业web开发来说，没有什么比Java/J2EE更好的了。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|81526|这些工具非常好(Eclipse及其同类工具都是开源的)，架构也非常容易理解。|81527|尽管甲骨文收购了Sun，但Java不会很快消失，因此它涵盖了长寿。资源和框架，你只需要在谷歌上看看J2EE的实际数量--这是一个令人印象深刻的数量(所以在所有的垃圾中肯定会有一些金子)。至于托管，你有很多web/应用服务器可供选择。|81528|另外，我们使用Eclipse在客户端使用jQuery来制作J2EE应用程序，以获得更好的UI效果。|81529|entityMap^0|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|J|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|K|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|L|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|6|7|M|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|-4|5|6|7|N|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|I|$]]

In my opinion (and this is opinion), nothing beats Java/J2EE for corporate web development.

The tools are very good (Eclipse and its ilk are open source) and the architecture is very well understood.

Despite the Oracle purchase of Sun, Java won't be disappearing any time soon so that covers longevity. Resources and frameworks, you just have to Google to see how much is actually around for J2EE - it's an impressive amount (so there's bound to be some nuggets amongst all the dross). As to hosting, you have a wide range of web/application servers to choose from.

As an aside, we use Eclipse to make our J2EE applications with jQuery pumped out on the client side for UI pizazz.

blocks|key|80509|text|拥有像Django这样的框架的Python是一种日益流行的web开发解决方案。它还与Google+App+Engine兼容，这使得部署比运行自己的硬件更简单。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|offset|length|data|80510|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://www.djangoproject.com/|1|http://python.org/|2|http://appengine.google.com/^0|3|6|0|F|6|1|16|H|2|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|P|8|@]|9|@$A|Q|B|R|1|S]|$A|T|B|U|1|V]|$A|W|B|X|1|Y]]|C|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|Z|8|@]|9|@]|C|$]]]|E|$F|$5|G|H|I|C|$J|K]]|L|$5|G|H|I|C|$J|M]]|N|$5|G|H|I|C|$J|O]]]]

<a href="http://python.org" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Python</a>, with a framework like <a href="http://www.djangoproject.com/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Django</a>, is an increasingly popular solution for web development. It's also compatible with <a href="http://appengine.google.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Google App Engine</a> which makes deployment simpler than running your own hardware.

blocks|key|4253683|text|如果您想要免费，请使用Java/J2EE。然而，这并不值得你费心。花起钱来容易多了。我在托管之前使用aspspider进行测试。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|4253684|entityMap^0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|D|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|-4|5|6|7|E|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|C|$]]

if you want to go free go for Java/J2EE. however it's not worth the bother. it's easier to shell out the money. i use aspspider to testing before hosting.

blocks|key|1036228|text|如果实现得当，JavaScript可以成为一个很好的主干。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1036229|Perl可以提供其他语言中没有的高级特性。|1036230|Java很好，但它有时很慢，如果你决定用它来写大部分代码，要小心。|1036231|entityMap^0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|I|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|J|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|K|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|G|$]]

JavaScript can be a good backbone if well implemented.

Perl can provide advanced features not incorporated in other languages.

Java is good but it's slow sometimes, be careful if you decide to write most of the code in it.

blocks|key|81640|text|就像其他行业一样，没有“最好的”选择可用，-all框架也有自己的优势和弱点。基本上，当涉及到web开发时，有4个稳定的技术堆栈：|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|81641|81642|ASP.NET+-you已经知道它|unordered-list-item|81643|PHP:+strength:+web开发标准，并且将其扩展到非常高的级别不仅是可能的，而且相当容易。有很好的文档记录，并且已经有大量的库可用。缺点:由于容易获得基础知识，周围的社区相当低级，这导致比最佳khm代码库少了几个khm。然而，这可能是improved.|81644|Java/J2EE:的优势:稳定的可伸缩性，已经提供的非常大和多样化的工具集。缺点:为您的情况选择最优的堆栈可能很困难；托管成本可能比PHP|81645|Python、Django|81646|和%2B1是Ruby更高；这一点还没有定论。|81647|81648|对于所有的web开发，问题归结为您想要实现什么，以及您/您的团队拥有哪些经验。据统计，PHP往往是最受欢迎的选择，因为事实上，任何随机的开发人员都可以相当容易地使用它(与其他选项相比)，潜入代码库，并立即修复/修复问题。再说一次，YMMV，做研究，而不是征求意见。|81649|entityMap^0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|S|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|-4|5|6|7|T|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|C|3|D|5|E|7|U|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|E|7|V|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|I|5|E|7|W|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|J|3|K|5|E|7|X|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|L|3|M|5|E|7|Y|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|N|3|-4|5|6|7|Z|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|O|3|P|5|6|7|10|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|Q|3|-4|5|6|7|11|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|R|$]]

Just like the rest of the industry, no "best" option is available -all frameworks has its own share of strength, and weakness.
Basically, when it comes to web development, there are 4 stable technology stacks:

<ul>
<li>ASP.NET -you already know it</li>
<li>PHP: strength: web development standard, and scaling it to very high levels is not only possible, but rather easy. Well documented, and a large array of libraries are already available. Weakness: due to ease of getting the basics, the surrounding community is rather noobish, which resulted in several khm less, than optimal khm code-bases. This can, however, be improved.</li>
<li>Java/J2EE: strength: stable scalability, a very large, and diverse set of tools already available. weakness: choosing the most optimal stack for your situation can be hard; hosting costs might be higher, than PHP</li>
<li>Python, along with Django</li>
<li>And the +1 is Ruby; the jury is still out with this one.</li>
</ul>

With all web developments, the question boils down to what you want to achieve, and what experience you / your team has. Statistically, PHP tends to be most popular choice, due to the fact, that any random developer can pick it up rather easily (compared to the other options), dive into the codebase, and fix / hack things right away. Again, YMMV, do the research, instead of asking for opinions.

blocks|key|1381015|text|Ruby+on+Rails可能是最让人大开眼界的体验。这很有趣。唯一的缺点是你可能不会“理解它”(尤其是“为什么x是这样做的”)，除非你至少买了实用的程序员的书“Agile+Web+Development+with+Rails”。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1381016|entityMap^0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|D|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|-4|5|6|7|E|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|C|$]]

Ruby on Rails will probably be the most eye-opening experience. It's a lot of fun. The only downside is that you may not "get it" (especially the "why is x done this way") without at least buying the Pragmatic Programmers book Agile Web Development with Rails.

blocks|key|1381033|text|这是我的两点意见，我是作为一名网页设计师/前端工程师“升迁”的。我精通客户端技术。然后，面对一个我必须为整个堆栈编写代码的项目，我选择了PHP。很长一段时间以来，我一直希望我选择Python，因为我从别人那里听说PHP从根本上来说是多么差劲，但一旦我坐下来思考，我就意识到我的PHP应用程序写得很好。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1381034|PHP是你自己创造的。它永远不会有编译语言的速度，但99%25的解释语言都是如此。此外，考虑到这一点，对于大多数web应用程序来说，加载页面时浪费的最大时间不是服务器解析脚本语言，而是通过网络传输数据和浏览器绘制屏幕(通过呈现编写得好或不好的CSS/JS)。|offset|length|style|BOLD|1381035|因此，我的结论是，对于大多数web应用程序，我建议使用一个好的PHP框架，比如带有Doctrine+ORM的Symfony+framework。这种方法迫使你写出“好的代码”。如果您正在为高盛编写flash-trading应用程序，那么您可能需要一种编译语言。我在考虑Pascal或Ada。|1381036|注意:我将学习许多其他语言，python、perl等。如果我在两年内仍然同意这个答案，那将是一件有趣的事情。|1381037|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://www.symfony-project.org/|1|http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/18/business/18regulate.html^0|0|0|B|0|1I|H|0|2Q|D|1|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|V|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|W|8|@$D|X|E|Y|F|G]]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|I|5|6|7|Z|8|@]|9|@$D|10|E|11|1|12]|$D|13|E|14|1|15]]|A|$]]|$1|J|3|K|5|6|7|16|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|L|3|-4|5|6|7|17|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|M|$N|$5|O|P|Q|A|$R|S]]|T|$5|O|P|Q|A|$R|U]]]]

Here is my two cents, I "came up the ranks" as a web designer/Front-end Engineer. I have masterly of the client side technologies. Then faced with a project where I would have to write code for the full stack, I chose PHP. For a long time I wished I chose Python because I heard from other people how fundamentally inferior PHP is, but once I sat down and thought about it, I realized my PHP application is well written.

PHP is what you make it. It will never have the speed of a compiled language, but that is true for 99% of interpreted languages. Further, when you think about it, for most web applications, the greatest time waste when loading a page is not the server parsing the scripting language, but the transfer of data over the wire and the browser painting the screen (by rendering your well or poorly written CSS/JS).

So my verdict, for most web applications, I recommend using a good PHP framework like the <a href="http://www.symfony-project.org/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Symfony framework</a> with the Doctrine ORM. This approach enforces you to write "good code". If you are writing an application to do <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/18/business/18regulate.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">flash-trading</a> for Goldman Sachs, then maybe you need a compiled language. I am thinking Pascal or Ada.

Note: I will learn many other languages, python, perl, etc. It will be interesting if I still agree with this answer in two years.

blocks|key|1036453|text|专业托管可能不会看到不同平台之间的价格差异(至少在比较.NET、Java、php等时是这样)。数据库、合格的技术人员、硬件基础设施等的成本远远超过您必须涵盖的操作系统和可能的应用服务器许可证的成本。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1036454|也就是说，php和rails看起来可能比.NET和Java更便宜(我没有看到很多主机提供商提供其他服务，比如Python)，因为在这个细分市场中，还有更多的公司提供低成本、低服务的软件包。与Java+EE相比，更低的正常运行时间保证，更低的带宽等，尤其是针对更高端客户的Java+EE。想一想，当家得宝选择Java+EE时，附近的DIY商店会提供php，因为他们想要全天候可用，并期望有更多的访问者。当然，这个套餐的成本要高得多，但你会得到你所支付的东西。|1036455|使用php+(从未尝试过，我是从事大型企业和(半)政府应用程序的全职Java开发人员)很可能开发相同的包，并且托管它的最终成本将非常相同(特别是如果您选择使用相同的关系型数据库作为后端，而不是php默认的mySQL，而Java项目倾向于向Oracle和其他高端产品靠拢，但即使有这种差异，也不是运行成本的主要因素，这主要由托管提供商的硬件体系结构、网络使用、等(如果我们假设由于应用程序错误/功能请求等而导致类似数量的支持呼叫))。|1036456|entityMap^0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|I|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|J|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|K|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|G|$]]

Professional hosting will probably not see a significant difference in price from one platform to the next (at least when comparing .NET, Java EE, php, etc.).
The cost of databases, qualified technicians, hardware infrastructure, etc. far outweigh that of the operating system and possible application server licenses you'd have to cover.

That said, php and rails probably appear cheaper than .NET and Java EE in particular (I've not seen many hosting providers offering other services like Python) because there are many more in that market segment offering lowcost, low service, packages.
Lower uptime guarantees, lower bandwidth, etc. as compared to Java EE especially which is usually targeted at higher end customers.
Think of php being offered to the neighbourhood DIY store when Home Depot chooses Java EE because they want 24/7 availability and expect a far larger number of visitors.
Of course that package will be a lot more costly, but you get what you pay for.

It's probably possible to develop the same package using php (never tried, I'm a fulltime Java EE developer working on large corporate and (semi)government applications) and the final cost of hosting it would be pretty much the same (especially if you chose to use the same RDBMS as a backend, rather than phps default mySQL whereas Java EE projects tend to drift towards Oracle and other highend offerings, but even with that difference that's not a major factor in the running cost which is determined mostly by the hardware architecture of the hosting provider, network usage, etc. (if we assume similar number of support calls due to application bugs/feature requests, etc.)).

I am resonably experienced with asp.net and would like to learn a new language with a focus on web development. 

Licensing and hosting costs are why I would like to use something not reliant on microsoft so something based on open source technologies is a plus. I have had a tiny bit of experience with php and did not like it but I guess I could be convinced otherwise.

Basically I'd like to know peoples opinion on the the best language for future web development with regards to longivity, resources, frameworks, hosting etc.

Choosing a non microsoft language for web development?

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