blocks|key|3251545|text|我的建议是：|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|3251546|1.)学习基础知识|3251547|Learning+the+Java+Language|offset|length|3251548|(不包括泛型章节，这是一个更高级的主题)|3251549|2.)在学习基础知识的同时，通过解决简单的练习来练习你所学到的知识|3251550|Coding+Bat|3251551|3.)开始实现简单的算法，学习如何使用递归|3251552|this)|3251553|Insertion+Sort|unordered-list-item|3251554|
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+|3251557|冒泡排序(仅供实际使用，并不实际使用this)|3251558|3251559|Insertion+Sort|3251560|3251561|3251562|3251563|4.)找一本关于数据结构和算法的好书，开始学习它们|3251564|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/java/index.html|1|http://codingbat.com/^0|0|0|0|Q|0|0|0|0|0|A|1|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|1K|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|1L|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|1M|8|@]|9|@$F|1N|G|1O|1|1P]]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|I|5|6|7|1Q|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|J|3|K|5|6|7|1R|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|L|3|M|5|6|7|1S|8|@]|9|@$F|1T|G|1U|1|1V]]|A|$]]|$1|N|3|O|5|6|7|1W|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|P|3|Q|5|6|7|1X|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|R|3|S|5|T|7|1Y|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|U|3|V|5|6|7|1Z|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|W|3|X|5|T|7|20|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|Y|3|Z|5|6|7|21|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|10|3|11|5|T|7|22|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|12|3|V|5|6|7|23|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|13|3|14|5|T|7|24|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|15|3|V|5|6|7|25|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|16|3|X|5|T|7|26|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|17|3|-4|5|6|7|27|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|18|3|19|5|6|7|28|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|1A|3|-4|5|6|7|29|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|1B|$1C|$5|1D|1E|1F|A|$1G|1H]]|1I|$5|1D|1E|1F|A|$1G|1J]]]]

My recommendation:

1.) Learn the basics

<a href="http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/java/index.html" rel="noreferrer">Learning the Java Language</a>

(excluding the Generics chapter, this is more of an advanced topic)

2.) While learning the basics, practice your gained knowledge by solving simple exercises

<a href="http://codingbat.com/" rel="noreferrer">Coding Bat</a>

3.) Start implementing simple algorithms, learn how to use recursion

<ul>
<li>Bubble Sort (only for practice, don't ever actually use this)</li>
<li>Insertion Sort</li>
<li>...</li>
</ul>

4.) Grab a good book about Data Structures and Algorithms and start learning them

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I think it's fine to learn the two side-by-side. If you try to just learn the data structures and algorithms first without doing any programming, it will all be a bit abstract - I think you're likely to learn more effectively if you can use what you're learning in a practical context. It also means you can experiment with what you're learning... it's harder to experiment in a theoretical way.

blocks|key|1186019|text|我认为你应该只学习java的基础知识，然后在学习一些更高级的java的同时开始学习数据结构和算法。如果你在没有学习至少一些语言结构的情况下就开始研究像算法这样的东西，事情将很难掌握。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1186020|entityMap^0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|D|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|-4|5|6|7|E|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|C|$]]

I think that you should learn only the very basics of java, then begin to learn about data structures and algorithms side by side with some more advanced java. If you start looking into things like algorithms without learning at least some language constructs, things are going to be hard to grasp.

blocks|key|440811|text|我个人建议你学习Java，尽管大多数编程语言都可以。虽然算法和数据结构是编程的重要部分，但它们并不是唯一的。在学习软件工程领域的任何部分时，熟悉一门编程语言都是很有用的，因为它能让你更深入地理解算法的内部工作原理。能够读取伪代码并将其转换为实际工作代码是很重要的。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|440812|Sun+Tutorials很棒，因为它们涵盖了大量的材料，既有初学者(参见语言基础部分)，也有高级的。|offset|length|440813|这是伟大的free+online+Java+Textbook，因为它可以在线查看，或通过下载一个免费的PDF版本离线。|440814|然后我会推荐一些练习来完全掌握这门语言，要么是通过做一些小的个人项目(简单的文本游戏，实用程序等)。或者通过研究一些开放源码。Sourceforge在这方面做得很好。|440815|此外，如果您喜欢数学，Project+Euler是学习Java+(或任何其他语言，因为挑战可以用任何语言解决)的一个很好的方法。这还将帮助您培养使用算法并解决它们所需的技能。|440816|一旦你觉得你已经很好地掌握了你所选择的语言，那么转向算法和数据结构不仅会更容易，而且会更有趣。您将伪代码转换为工作代码的能力将非常有用，因为您可以真正了解算法和数据结构的工作原理，并可以在测试应用程序中实现它们。|440817|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/java/index.html|1|http://math.hws.edu/javanotes/|2|http://sourceforge.net/|3|http://projecteuler.net/^0|0|0|D|0|0|5|P|1|0|1R|B|2|0|B|D|3|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|11|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|12|8|@]|9|@$D|13|E|14|1|15]]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|6|7|16|8|@]|9|@$D|17|E|18|1|19]]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|I|5|6|7|1A|8|@]|9|@$D|1B|E|1C|1|1D]]|A|$]]|$1|J|3|K|5|6|7|1E|8|@]|9|@$D|1F|E|1G|1|1H]]|A|$]]|$1|L|3|M|5|6|7|1I|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|N|3|-4|5|6|7|1J|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|O|$P|$5|Q|R|S|A|$T|U]]|V|$5|Q|R|S|A|$T|W]]|X|$5|Q|R|S|A|$T|Y]]|Z|$5|Q|R|S|A|$T|10]]]]

I would personally reccomend you learn Java, although most programming languages will do. Although Algorithms and Data Structures are an important part of programming, they are not the only one. It is useful to be familiar with a programming language when studying any subsection of the software engineering realm, such as A.I. or Data Structures, as it gives you a deeper understanding of the inner workings of the algorithms. It is important to be able to read pseudocode and translate it into actual working code.

The <a href="http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/java/index.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Sun Tutorials</a> are great as they cover a large amount of material, both beginner (see the Language Basics section) and advanced.

This <a href="http://math.hws.edu/javanotes/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">free online Java Textbook</a> is great as it can be viewed online, or offline by downloading a free PDF version.

I would then recommend some practice to fully grasp the language, either by working on some small personal projects (simple text games, utilities, etc.) or by studying some open source code. <a href="http://sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Sourceforge</a> is great for this. 

Also, if you enjoy mathematics, <a href="http://projecteuler.net/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Project Euler</a> is an excellent way of learning Java (or any other language as the challengs can be solved in any language). This will also help you develop the skills necessary to work with algorithms and solve them.

Once you feel you have a good grasp of your language of choice, moving on to Algorithms and Data Structures will not only be easier but more enjoyable. Your ability to translate pseudo-code into working code will come in very useful as you can truly understand the workings of the algorithms and data structures and can implement them in test applications.

blocks|key|1186111|text|通常，我们程序员永远学不会成为优秀的程序员。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1186112|我们首先使用的语言对我们思考问题的方式有太大的影响。后来，我们可能会学习其他语言，但我们会继续编写程序，就像我们使用第一种语言一样。|1186113|我们的视野被起始语言(例如Java)或范例(例如面向对象)所限制。|1186114|尽管我们感觉我们缺少了一些东西，但我们忙于与鳄鱼作斗争，以至于没有时间排干让我们陷入泥潭的沼泽。|1186115|我的建议是，不要太快进入Java或其他任何东西。从一开始就让自己接触到一系列的语言。您最终会成为一名更好的Java程序员。|1186116|这是一条很好的学习路径：|1186117|http://www.teach-scheme.org/Overview/|offset|length|1186118|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url^0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|11|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|W|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|X|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|Y|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|6|7|Z|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|I|5|6|7|10|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|J|3|K|5|6|7|11|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|L|3|M|5|6|7|12|8|@]|9|@$N|13|O|14|1|15]]|A|$]]|$1|P|3|-4|5|6|7|16|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|Q|$R|$5|S|T|U|A|$V|M]]]]

Often we programmers never learn to be good programmers.

The language we jump into first has too much influence on how we think 
about problems. Later, we may learn other languages but we continue
to write programs as though we were using the first.

Our horizons are clipped by that start language (e.g. Java) or 
paradigm (e.g. object oriented).

Although we sense we are lacking something, we are too busy 
fighting alligators to drain the swamp that bogs us down.

My advice is don't jump into Java, or anything else too quickly.
Expose yourself to a progression of languages right from the start.
You'll end up a better Java programmer. 

This is a really good path to follow:

<a href="http://www.teach-scheme.org/Overview/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://www.teach-scheme.org/Overview/</a>

blocks|key|1186037|text|大多数数据结构书籍都将根植于某种编程语言。我建议找一个使用Java的，然后从那里开始。话虽如此，DS和算法确实很棒，但仅凭这些并不能让你成为一个“真正优秀的Java程序员”。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1186038|Here's链接到Google+Shopping搜索Java数据结构书籍。我会说我从来没有读过其中的任何一本书，我在大学里读的DS书是为C写的。|offset|length|1186039|你也应该看看实用主义书架(Google+it，我不能用我的低声誉粘贴多个链接)，他们有关于编程工艺的书籍，而不仅仅是语言。确实非常方便。|1186040|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://www.google.com/products?q=java%2520data%2520structures%2520book&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wf^0|0|0|6|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|P|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|Q|8|@]|9|@$D|R|E|S|1|T]]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|6|7|U|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|-4|5|6|7|V|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|I|$J|$5|K|L|M|A|$N|O]]]]

Most data structures books are going to be rooted in some programming language. I would suggest finding one that uses Java and go from there. That being said, DS and algorithms are great, but those alone won't make you a 'really good Java programmer'.

<a href="http://www.google.com/products?q=java%20data%20structures%20book&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;sa=N&amp;hl=en&amp;tab=wf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Here's</a> a link to a Google Shopping search for Java data structures books. I'll date myself by saying that I've never read any of them, and the DS book I read in college was written for C.

You should also have a look at the Pragmatic Bookshelf (Google it, I can't paste multiple links with my low rep) as well, they have books about the craft of programming, rather than just languages. Very handy indeed.

blocks|key|1186044|text|了解如何使用集合框架：|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1186045|http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/collections/index.html|offset|length|1186046|http://www.cs.lmu.edu/~ray/talks/jcf.pdf|1186047|http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/collections/changes6.html|1186048|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|1|2^0|0|0|1Q|0|0|0|14|1|0|0|24|2|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|S|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|T|8|@]|9|@$D|U|E|V|1|W]]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|6|7|X|8|@]|9|@$D|Y|E|Z|1|10]]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|I|5|6|7|11|8|@]|9|@$D|12|E|13|1|14]]|A|$]]|$1|J|3|-4|5|6|7|15|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|K|$L|$5|M|N|O|A|$P|C]]|Q|$5|M|N|O|A|$P|G]]|R|$5|M|N|O|A|$P|I]]]]

learn how to use the collections framework:

<a href="http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/collections/index.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/collections/index.html</a>

<a href="http://www.cs.lmu.edu/~ray/talks/jcf.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://www.cs.lmu.edu/~ray/talks/jcf.pdf</a>

<a href="http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/collections/changes6.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/collections/changes6.html</a>

blocks|key|441264|text|当然，我的建议是先学习算法和数据结构，然后再学习after....and之类的编程语言。我是凭经验说话的。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|441265|entityMap^0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|D|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|-4|5|6|7|E|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|C|$]]

Definitely my recommendation is to learn algorithms first and data structures after....and then a programming language like Java.
I talk by my experience.

I am a beginner to programming. Should I learn data structures and algorithms, and the programming language Java side by side?
Now that I know data structures and algorithms form the basis of programming. Should I learn them first?

I am confused. What should be my learning path?

I want to be a really good Java programmer.

Should I learn about data structures and algorithms first or the programming language Java first?

翻译质量差，导致语言生硬或混乱。

没有提供实际的解决方法或示例。

解答不清晰，无法理解或解决问题。

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