blocks|key|1048481|text|了解HTML、JavaScript、CSS，当然还有C#或VB，这就是成为一名出色的MVC开发人员所需要的一切。当你想做一些更高级的事情时，了解一些关于when服务器内部如何工作的知识也是有帮助的。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1048482|但是ASP.NET+Webforms本身呢？不，您根本不需要这些知识就可以开始在MVC中进行开发。|1048483|entityMap^0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|F|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|G|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|E|$]]

Knowing HTML, JavaScript, CSS and obviously C# or VB is all you need to be a kickass MVC developer. It also helps to know some stuff about how a webserver works internally when you want to do some more advanced stuff.

But ASP.NET Webforms on it's own? No you don't need that knowledge AT ALL to start developing in MVC.

blocks|key|1794389|text|就像你现在这样去做吧。是的，有ASP.NET+WebForms的背景会很有帮助，但你会做得很好，只要记住，当你读到关于ASP.NET+WebForms的时候，还有另外一个‘东西’会被大量引用。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1794390|entityMap^0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|D|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|-4|5|6|7|E|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|C|$]]

Go for it as you are now. Yes, it would help to have a background in ASP.NET WebForms, but you'll do fine just keeping in mind that there is this other 'thing' out there which is going to be referenced a lot as you read about ASP.NET MVC.

blocks|key|3058515|text|毫无疑问，你可以直接使用MVC，但是如果你有一般的asp.net知识，那么MVC会对你有很大的帮助。因为一般asp.net应用程序的help和tuts的可用性比MVC要高得多。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|3058516|entityMap^0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|D|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|-4|5|6|7|E|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|C|$]]

No doubt, You can directly go for MVC but if you have knowledge of general asp.net then it will be very help full to you in MVC. because availability of help and tuts for general asp.net application is much higher than MVC.

blocks|key|1794500|text|如果你自己学习asp.net，你会养成很多坏习惯。一些开发人员在迁移到asp.net+MVC时很难忘记这些。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1794501|在asp.net+MVC的环境下学习它应该会减少这些。我真的不能确定，因为我从1.0就开始使用asp.net了，所以在转向asp.net+MVC之前，我对它非常了解。|1794502|1794503|+@eglasius:从长远来看，我不同意。如果你想成为一个好的开发人员，你需要了解底层的技术。asp.net不是火箭科学;-)+-+Yves+M|blockquote|1794504|1794505|1794506|我认为这实际上是一个不学习asp.net本身的理由。我见过开发人员学习asp.net，但对底层技术一无所知，而imho+asp.net+MVC在鼓励你了解asp.net、html、css、ajax等方面做得更好。|1794507|深入研究您在asp.net+/+Session、缓存中使用的asp.net片段，以及您最终要使用的任何东西。如果你想使用不同的视图引擎，那么学习aspx语法和控件就没有多大意义了。此外，当你只是在asp.net+MVC中使用aspx/aspx时，控件生命周期的某些部分就会变得杂乱无章。|1794508|1794509|收集LINQ，WCF和ADO.NET数据服务，JSON，实体框架等(MVC3.5/4.0框架的一部分)的先验知识可以在你迈向MVC开发道路时极大地帮助你。至少这是我的观点。--迪克·兰帕德|1794510|1794511|1794512|一定。你更有可能通过进入JSON而不是通过asp.net表单来学习JSON。在学习asp.net时，使用数据源控件可能会进一步模糊学习体验中的数据访问(我们在asp.net+1.0中没有这些控件：)。至于其余部分，这些是框架中比较中立的部分，您可以开发桌面应用程序并学习它们。我同意这样的想法，知道这些是可以很好地迁移的技能，但是你不需要去asp.net来学习这些/在asp.net+MVC的上下文中这样做是完全可以的。|1794513|entityMap^0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|W|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|X|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|Y|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|E|3|F|5|G|7|Z|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|-4|5|6|7|10|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|I|3|-4|5|6|7|11|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|J|3|K|5|6|7|12|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|L|3|M|5|6|7|13|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|N|3|-4|5|6|7|14|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|O|3|P|5|G|7|15|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|Q|3|-4|5|6|7|16|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|R|3|-4|5|6|7|17|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|S|3|T|5|6|7|18|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|U|3|-4|5|6|7|19|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|V|$]]

You'll pick plenty of some bad habits if you learn asp.net by itself. Some devs have trouble unlearning those when moving to asp.net MVC.

imho learning it in the context of asp.net MVC should reduce those. Can't really tell for sure, since I worked with asp.net since 1.0, so I knew it pretty well before moving to asp.net MVC.

<blockquote>
 @eglasius: well i dont agree on the long run. if you want to be a decent developer you need to know the underling technologies. and asp.net is not rocket science ;-) – Yves M
</blockquote>

I think that's actually an argument for not learning asp.net by itself. I've seen devs learn asp.net and not knowing much of the underlying technologies, and imho asp.net MVC makes a much better job at encouraging you to know about http, html, css, ajax, etc.

Dig into the pieces of asp.net that you work with in asp.net / Session, Cache, anything that you end up using. Not much point in learning about aspx syntax and controls, if you will go with a different View Engine. Also there are some parts of the control lifecycle that's just noise when you are just working with aspx/ascx in asp.net MVC.

<blockquote>
 Gathering prior knowledge for LINQ, WCF and ADO.NET data services, JSON, Entity Framework, etc. (part of .NET 3.5/4.0 framework) can help you tremendously when you advance towards the ASP.NET MVC development path. At least that is my opinion. – Dick Lampard
</blockquote>

Definitely. You are more likely to learn JSON by going into asp.net MVC than by going web forms. When learning asp.net you risk further obscuring data access in the learning experience by using the Data Source controls (we didn't had those in asp.net 1.0 :)). As for the rest, those are more neutral pieces of the framework, you could be developing desktop applications and be learning those. I agree with the thinking that knowing those are skills that transfer very well, but you don't need to go to asp.net to learn those / doing so in the context of asp.net MVC is perfectly ok.

blocks|key|1794529|text|你需要知道ASP.NET+WebForms吗？不，因为您将在演示文稿中使用MVC。知道ASP.NET中的所有其他位是否有用？绝对一点儿没错。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1794530|你应该把ASP.NET看作一个完整的平台--+WebForms和MVC只是其中的两部分，平台中还有很多其他的功能，不管你的呈现技术是什么--成员资格，缓存等等，这些与呈现无关的东西才是你应该关注的。|1794531|entityMap^0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|F|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|G|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|E|$]]

Do you need to know ASP.NET WebForms? No, because you'll be using MVC for your presentation. 
Would it be useful to know all the other bits that are in ASP.NET? Absolutely.

You should think of ASP.NET as a whole platform - WebForms and MVC are only two pieces, there's lots of other pieces of functionality built into the platform that are useful regardless of your presentation technology - membership, caching etc. Those presentation-agnostic pices are what you should concentrate on.

blocks|key|3058555|text|最大的优势是知道C#或VB.NET，ASP.Net和MVC在如何使用上有很大的不同。但也有相似之处。如果你想学习MVC，你不需要一开始就学习asp.net，因为它只会让你感到困惑。而且它也不是很有后遗症。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|3058556|要做一个好的或者很棒的MVC应用，你需要学习或者应该学习的东西是C#、Linq和jQuery。|3058557|当然，这只是我的观点。|3058558|entityMap^0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|I|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|J|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|K|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|G|$]]

The biggest advantage would be knowing C# or VB.NET. ASP.Net and MVC are yet very different in how to use it. but also have similarities. if you want to study MVC, you don't need to learn asp.net at first, because it'll only confuse you. and it is not very nescesary.

The things you'll learn or should learn to make a good/great MVC application are C#, Linq and jQuery. 

ofcourse this is just my opinion.

I've begun reading an excellent book on ASP.NET MVC 2 by Manning Press. In the early part of the book, the authors imply understanding ASP.NET 3.5/4.0 is good for building ASP.NET MVC 2 concepts on top. I am an intermediate developer - should I cover ASP.NET first or can I get by ?

Thanks,

Scott

Is it necessary to know ASP.NET before learning ASP.NET MVC 2?

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