blocks|key|283510|text|关于我的一些背景，我开发了Clojurescript、JQuery、Vaadin、Servlet、JSP和许多其他web技术。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|283511|1)+Clojurescript比我使用过的任何其他web技术都难学，比如Java、Clojure、闭包(带s+;)、闭包库和特定于Closurescript的知识。|283512|2)+Clojurescript对于一个小应用来说是没有意义的。只有当您有大量的客户端处理时，才有意义。|283513|3)据我所见，Clojurescript的唯一用途是作为一个更好的javascript+(这就是为什么它更适合更大的应用程序)，因为Clojurescript的小型化部分也可用于javascript。|283514|4)只有客户端将用Javascript编写，服务器将在Clojure/Javascript中编写|283515|entityMap^0|0|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|L|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|M|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|N|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|6|7|O|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|I|5|6|7|P|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|J|3|-4|5|6|7|Q|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|K|$]]

A bit of background about me, I have developed with Clojurescript, JQuery, Vaadin, Servlets, JSP, and many other web technologies.

1) Clojurescript is much harder to learn than any other web technology I have used as you need, Java, Clojure, Closure (with an s ;), Closure Lib, and Closurescript specific knowledge. 

2) Clojurescript doesn't make sense for a small app. It only makes sense when you will have ALOT of client side processing

3) Clojurescript's only use as far as I see is as a better javascript (which is why it is better suited to larger apps) as the minifier part of Clojurescript is available for javascript too

4) Only the client end would be written in Javascript, the server would be in Clojure/Java servlets

blocks|key|283545|text|我认为Clojure/ClojureScript应用程序的结构将非常类似于X后端技术%2B+JavaScript。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|283546|使用Clojure和ClojureScript架构应用程序有一个很大的好处--一种比JSON更丰富的数据格式(您可以用任意键表示散列映射和集合)，而不会失去紧凑性。|283547|JavaScript是一种很好、很好的语言，但是ClojureScript提供了很多好处。它在语义上更简单(功能)，附带了一个丰富的标准库，一个健壮的经过战斗测试的应用程序库(Google闭包)，以及通过宏进行语法抽象的有品位的应用程序所带来的所有好处。|283548|尽管如此，它仍然是非常阿尔法软件和工具仍然需要大量的工作。|283549|entityMap^0|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|J|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|K|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|L|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|6|7|M|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|-4|5|6|7|N|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|I|$]]

I think Clojure/ClojureScript applications will be structured very similarly to X backend technology + JavaScript.

One big benefit with architecting applications with Clojure and ClojureScript - a richer data format than JSON (you can represent hash-maps and sets with arbitrary keys) without losing compactness.

JavaScript is a fine, fine language but ClojureScript offers quite a few benefits. It's semantically simpler (functional), ships with a rich standard library, a robust battle tested application library (Google Closure), and all the benefits you get from the tasteful application of syntactic abstraction via macros.

That said, it's still very much alpha software and the tooling still needs a lot of work.

blocks|key|283577|text|也许Ganelon微框架(顺便说一句，我是该框架的作者)将适合您的需要--执行模型类似于Vaadin的:服务器端code代码通过AJAX/JavaScript将UI更新推送到浏览器，但默认情况下我们不会将应用程序状态存储在会话中。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|283578|演示和文档可在http://ganelon.tomeklipski.com/上获得。|offset|length|283579|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://ganelon.tomeklipski.com/^0|0|7|V|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|N|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|O|8|@]|9|@$D|P|E|Q|1|R]]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|S|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|G|$H|$5|I|J|K|A|$L|M]]]]

Maybe Ganelon micro-framework (which incidentally I am author of) will suit your needs - the execution model is similiar to Vaadin's: server-side Clojure code pushes UI updates to the browser through AJAX/JavaScript, but we don't store application state in session by default.

The demo and docs are available at <a href="http://ganelon.tomeklipski.com/" rel="nofollow">http://ganelon.tomeklipski.com/</a>

blocks|key|763724|text|对我来说，clojure和clojurescript提供了比混合堆栈更干净的代码。只有一种语言可以考虑，而且代码很容易阅读。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|763725|后端的做java通常会做的事情。输入验证，保存到数据库，最重要的是实现业务逻辑。我们的后端还通过使用棱镜模式的类型验证传入/传出数据。|offset|length|style|BOLD|763726|简而言之：我们使用ClojureScript获得了漂亮的代码，编写起来非常快。在编写UI组件时使用了材料用户界面的ClojureScript版本。与JavaScript相比，我们必须编写更少的代码，我发现UI组件代码比JavaScript组件代码更容易阅读。主要的原因之一是短的结束标签和较少的噪音编码语言。使用ClojureScript的开发速度相当快。|763727|当然，ClojureScript用于简单的输入验证，比如电话号码的RegExp。|763728|clojure的缺点之一，您可能已经注意到，是在为函数指定正确名称之后排得很长。我还没找到银弹怎么对付呢。|763729|正如强的伦所说:+ClojureScript仍在发展中。现在比6个月前要好得多，所以你必须不时地检查它的成熟度。|763730|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://www.material-ui.com/#/|1|https://stackoverflow.com/users/32797/dnolen^0|0|3|D|0|5|Y|1E|6|0|0|0|0|2|3|1|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|Z|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|10|8|@$D|11|E|12|F|G]]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|I|5|6|7|13|8|@$D|14|E|15|F|G]]|9|@$D|16|E|17|1|18]]|A|$]]|$1|J|3|K|5|6|7|19|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|L|3|M|5|6|7|1A|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|N|3|O|5|6|7|1B|8|@]|9|@$D|1C|E|1D|1|1E]]|A|$]]|$1|P|3|-4|5|6|7|1F|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|Q|$R|$5|S|T|U|A|$V|W]]|X|$5|S|T|U|A|$V|Y]]]]

For me, clojure and clojurescript offers cleaner code than mixed stack. There is only one language to think of and code is quite easy to read.

At the backend clojure does things that java usually would do. Input validation, saving to database and above all, implementing business logic. Our backend also validates incoming / outgoing data by types using prismatic schemas.

Frontend in short: We get pretty code using ClojureScript and it is fast to write. We are using ClojureScript version of <a href="http://www.material-ui.com/#/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">material-ui</a> when writing UI components. We have to write less code when compared to the JavaScript and I find our UI component code to be easier to read than JavaScript counterpart. One of the main reasons is shorter closing tags and less noise by coding language. Development with ClojureScript is quite fast.

Of course ClojureScript is used for simple imput validation like RegExp for phone numbers etc.

One of the disadvantages of clojure which you have probably noticed is long lines after giving proper names to the functions. I havent found silver bullet how to cope with that.

As <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/users/32797/dnolen">dnolen</a> said: ClojureScript is still developing. It is way better now than it was 6 months ago, so you'll have to keep checking its maturity now and then.

Note: I'm a backend (Java) developer by trade and work in Clojure in my spare time, so forgive me for my ignorance.

I'm trying to get my head around Clojurescript and how it could potentially fit in with projects I'm working on, or plan to work on in the future. As I've grown up with the "classic" web development mindset (e.g. Clojure running the backend, distributing data to the frontend via JSON to be processed in JS or returning a HTML page for the browser to render), I'm having trouble trying to understand how Clojurescript might make things better than this model.

Could anyone explain to me what the general approach to Clojurescript/Clojure development would be, seeing as the "Clojurescript One" project moniker signifies that application development will be unified under one language (as such)

<ul>
<li>What tasks would normally be done in the Clojurescript portion of the application?</li>
<li>What tasks would normally be done in the Clojure (e.g. backend) portion of the application?</li>
</ul>

Any help would be appreciated, or if anyone can point me towards some diagrams or explanations or anything - that would be great too!

Development "model" for clojurescript/clojure applications

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