blocks|key|1392804|text|Objective-C并没有那么难。如果您了解C%2B%2B，那么您将花费一到三天的时间来学习这些约定。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1392805|Cocoa+API和约定需要更长的时间，但它们来得很及时。|1392806|祝好运!|1392807|entityMap^0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|I|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|J|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|K|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|G|$]]

Objective-C is not that hard. If you know C++ it will take you a day or three of applied effort to learn the conventions.

The Cocoa APIs and conventions take longer, but those come in time.

Good luck!

blocks|key|1607841|text|我一直在尝试使用Objective-C%2B%2B编写UI，使使用C%2B%2B编写应用程序后端变得更容易。它对我来说似乎工作得很好。Objective-C和Objective-C%2B%2B非常容易上手，这让我可以继续使用我来之不易的C%2B%2B知识。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1607842|entityMap^0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|D|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|-4|5|6|7|E|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|C|$]]

I've been playing around using Objective-C++ to write the UI, making it easier to use C++ to write the application back-end. It seems to work pretty well for me. Objective-C &amp; Objective-C++ are pretty easy to pick up and this lets me keep using my hard-won C++ knowledge.

blocks|key|1392699|text|除非您正在考虑使用像QT这样的中间层，否则我认为您很难使用Objective+C来与像GUI这样的API部分进行交互，因为它是它们的母语。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1392700|也就是说，前面已经提到，您可以很容易地将Objective-C代码和C%2B%2B代码混合在一起，这样您仍然可以用C%2B%2B编写大部分应用程序。|1392701|我主要是一名C%2B%2B程序员，但我一直在涉足其他语言，而且我也接触过XCode+(是的，我有一台Mac)。我喜欢它，它有一点不同，但作为一种将OS+X图形用户界面钉在一起的方式，它是一流的，剩下的就在你和你最喜欢的编辑器之间，如果你不太喜欢XCode的话。|1392702|entityMap^0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|I|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|J|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|K|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|G|$]]

Unless you're looking at using an intermediate layer like QT, I think you're pretty much stuck with Objective C to interface with parts of the API like the GUI as it is their native language.

That said, it has been mentioned that you can easily mix Objective-C code and C++ code so you may still be able to write the majority of your application in C++.

I'm mainly a C++ programmer but I'm always dabbling in other languages and I've had a play with XCode (yes, I've got a Mac). I liked it, it's a bit different but as a way of nailing together an OS X GUI it's superb and the rest is between you and your favourite editor if you don't like XCode that much.

blocks|key|1608202|text|C%2B%2B可以很好地与Xcode一起工作。如果你想要可可，你可以为gui层学习最少量的Obj-C+(我指的是非常少的)，并将你的大部分代码放在C%2B%2B中。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1608203|另一种选择是使用一种脚本语言框架来挂钩到Cocoa+API+(比如PyObjc)和C%2B%2B中的大部分逻辑。|1608204|第三种也是最后一种选择是使用跨平台的gui工具包，例如Qt4。如果你想让你的库跨平台，这将是一条可行的路线。|1608205|我建议不要使用碳元素。它绝对是一头垂死的野兽。您也可以结合使用上述方法，为您的C%2B%2B代码提供一个库，然后创建特定于gui的UI来链接它们。|1608206|entityMap^0|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|J|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|K|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|L|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|6|7|M|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|-4|5|6|7|N|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|I|$]]

C++ works very well with Xcode. If you want cocoa, you can learn a minimal (and I mean really minimal) amount of Obj-C for the gui layer and have the bulk of your code in C++.

Another option is using one of the scripting language frameworks for hooking into the Cocoa API (such as PyObjc) and the bulk of your logic in C++.

The third and final option is using a cross platform gui kit such as Qt4. If there's a desire to make your libraries cross platform, this would be the route to go.

I would recommend against going with Carbon. It's definitely a dying beast. You could also use combinations of the above providing a library with your C++ code then creating gui specific UI's that link them them.

blocks|key|1607755|text|在OS+X中使用gcc或g%2B%2B没有问题。XCode安装无论如何都会为你提供这些编译器，如果你真的想要，你可以加载一个x服务器实例并让KDE工作。不过，我自己也喜欢XCode编辑器。Eclipse还可以与OS一起使用，因此您应该能够使用当前的环境。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1607756|我以前使用过OS机器来交叉编译从PPC+arch到ARM+arch的C代码，没有任何问题。它只是另一个*nix风格的系统，所以你熟悉的所有工具都已经存在了，如果它们不存在，只需使用fink或macports自己获取它们。|offset|length|1607757|此外，如果您真的想使用C%2B%2B开发GUI应用程序，您可以始终使用Carbon而不是Cocoa。这是一个完全可行的选择，只是稍微被弃用了。|1607758|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://www.finkproject.org/|1|http://www.macports.org/^0|0|2I|4|0|2N|8|1|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|R|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|S|8|@]|9|@$D|T|E|U|1|V]|$D|W|E|X|1|Y]]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|6|7|Z|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|-4|5|6|7|10|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|I|$J|$5|K|L|M|A|$N|O]]|P|$5|K|L|M|A|$N|Q]]]]

It's no problem using gcc or g++ from OS X. The XCode install gives you these compilers anyway, and if you really wanted, you could load up an x server instance and get KDE working. I like the XCode editor myself though. Eclipse also works with OS X, so you should be able to use your current environment.

I've used an OS X box for cross-compiling C code from PPC arch to ARM arch before, with no problems. It's just another *nix style system, so all the tools you are familiar with will already exist, and if they don't, just use <a href="http://www.finkproject.org/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">fink</a> or <a href="http://www.macports.org/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">macports</a> to get them yourself.

Also, if you really wanted to use C++ for developing GUI OS X apps, you could always use Carbon instead of Cocoa. It's a perfectly viable choice, only slightly deprecated.

blocks|key|1392926|text|Mac上的Carbon实际上已经被弃用了-它不支持也不会支持64位应用程序。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1392927|如果您真的想使用c%2B%2B，请使用Qt+Creator|offset|length|1392928|它现在是免费的，trolltech+SDK包括Qt4.5，虽然它是一个c%2B%2B框架，但它在内部使用Objective-C与MAC交互，因此您不会受到碳的限制。|1392929|缺点是trolltech库不是mac上的标准，你必须在你的应用程序中提供它们。|1392930|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/category/qtcreator/^0|0|F|A|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|R|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|S|8|@]|9|@$D|T|E|U|1|V]]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|6|7|W|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|I|5|6|7|X|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|J|3|-4|5|6|7|Y|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|K|$L|$5|M|N|O|A|$P|Q]]]]

Carbon on Mac OS X is effectively deprecated - it does not and will not support 64 bit apps.

If you really really want to use c++, use <a href="http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/category/qtcreator/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Qt Creator</a>

Which is now free and the trolltech SDK includes Qt 4.5, which while it is a c++ framework it internally uses Objective-C to interact with MAC OS X, so then you are not limited by Carbon.

The downside is that the trolltech libraries are not standard on the mac, you must provide them with your app.

blocks|key|1607895|text|我同意Pablo+Santa+Cruz的观点，并想补充说，在同一个应用程序(以及相同的源文件)中混合Objective-C和C%2B%2B是微不足道的。这被称为Objective-C%2B%2B，并讨论了in+this+article。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|offset|length|data|1607896|XCode与GCC一起进行编译，因此您可以轻松掌握Objective+C、C和C%2B%2B。|1607897|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ObjectiveC/Articles/ocCPlusPlus.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP30001163-CH10-SW1^0|2M|F|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|N|8|@]|9|@$A|O|B|P|1|Q]]|C|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|R|8|@]|9|@]|C|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|S|8|@]|9|@]|C|$]]]|G|$H|$5|I|J|K|C|$L|M]]]]

I agree with Pablo Santa Cruz and would like to add that it's trivial to mix Objective-C with C++ in the same app (and the same source file). This is referred to as Objective-C++ and discussed <a href="http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ObjectiveC/Articles/ocCPlusPlus.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP30001163-CH10-SW1" rel="nofollow noreferrer">in this article</a>. 

XCode compiles with GCC so you have Objective C, C, and C++ ready at your finger tips.

blocks|key|1607491|text|我自己还没有在操作系统上使用过它(我可以在Windows上推荐它)，但是Code::Blocks是使用并支持跨平台的wxWidgets+C%2B%2B库实现的。它在OSX上是受支持的--参见this+page。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|offset|length|data|1607492|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://www.codeblocks.org/^0|2J|9|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|L|8|@]|9|@$A|M|B|N|1|O]]|C|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|P|8|@]|9|@]|C|$]]]|E|$F|$5|G|H|I|C|$J|K]]]]

I haven't used it on OSX myself (I can recommend it on Windows), but the Code::Blocks C++ IDE is implemented using, and supports, the cross-platform wxWidgets GUI library. It is supported on OSX - see <a href="http://www.codeblocks.org/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">this page</a>.

blocks|key|1392770|text|我建议您坚持使用您最喜欢的IDE。就我个人而言，我第一次使用Xcode时就讨厌它，并拒绝放弃Eclipse。几天后，我热身于Xcode，并不介意时不时地使用它。但是，只要有可能，我仍然使用Eclipse。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1392771|只需记住，您不能仅使用C%2B%2B编写Cocoa应用程序，您需要深入研究Obj-C。Carbon应用程序在外观和行为上都不太像Cocoa应用程序。大多数人不会真的介意，但这是值得考虑的事情。我从java/C#跳到Obj-C，没有任何问题。这门语言需要一点时间来适应，但并不是很难。|1392772|entityMap^0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|F|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|G|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|E|$]]

I would advice you to stick with whichever IDE you are most comfortable with. Personally, I hated Xcode the first time I used it and refused to give up Eclipse. After a few days, I warmed up to Xcode and don't mind using it from time to time. However, I still use Eclipse whenever possible. 

Just remember that you cannot write Cocoa applications using only C++, you need to dive into Obj-C for that. Carbon applications don't quite look or behave like a Cocoa app. Most people won't really mind but it's something to think about. I jumped into Obj-C from java/C# without any issues. The language takes a little getting used to but it's not very difficult.

blocks|key|1393099|text|对于一些小的业余爱好项目，以及我正在开发的一个iPhone应用程序，我混合使用了objective+C%2B%2B和“真正的”C%2B%2B。XCode很好地支持这两种语言的混合。我使用objective+C/objective+C%2B%2B作为用户界面，并作为OSX框架和我自己的代码之间的薄层。到目前为止，这已经被证明是一种很好的工作方式。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1393100|entityMap^0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|D|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|-4|5|6|7|E|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|C|$]]

For some small hobby projects, and an iPhone app I'm making, I'm using a mix of objective C++ and 'real' C++. XCode supports the mixing of both languages fairly well. I use objective C/objective C++ for the user interface and as a thin layer between the OSX frameworks and my own code. So far, this has turned out to be a great way of working.

blocks|key|1608100|text|我现在在Mac机上使用的开发环境是QTCreator，这是一个用QT开发的免费的集成开发环境，使用的是gcc的编译器。它提供了我需要的所有功能，而且它是跨平台的(我正在开发的应用程序的一个需求)。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|1608101|我不得不说，我对此印象相当深刻。我对这样一个专注的(专门为QT设计的)和最新的IDE并没有太高的期望。该环境简单但功能强大(包括GUI编辑)，并且具有我所见过的最好的代码完成功能。在这种环境下，这是一个轻而易举的编程，不要错过任何Visual+Studio。|1608102|真的值得一试。|1608103|entityMap^0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|I|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|J|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|K|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|G|$]]

The development environment that I am using right now for development in the Mac is QTCreator which is a free IDE for development in QT with gcc as compiler. It gives all the features I need and it is cross platform (one requirement of the application I am developing).

I have to say that I've been fairly impressed. I didn't have high hopes for such a focused (specifically designed for QT) and recent IDE. The environment is easy but powerful (including GUI editing) and has the better code completion I've ever seen. It is a breeze programming in this environment and don't miss a bit Visual Studio.

Really worth a try.

I am looking for alternatives for my current box and Mac OS X seems very appealing.

My main area of interest is C++ programming. Currently I'm using Eclipse + CDT and g++ for creating my software; sometimes it is KDevelop.

I know that primary IDE for Mac is Xcode and primary language is Objective-C. I would like to avoid learning Objective-C if at all possible. I've also heard/read that there are some issues in accessing Mac OS X APIs from C++.

Hence my question:
what is the complete solution for developing/debugging/testing C++ applications that access all aspects of hardware (UI, sound, video/accelerated video, etc.) for Mac OS X?

Edit: how does Xcode compare to the Eclipse+CDT combo? If this comparison is at all possible...

Complete solution for writing Mac OS X application in C++

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我正在为我目前的电脑寻找替代品，Mac看起来很有吸引力。我主要感兴趣的领域是C++编程。目前，我正在使用Eclipse + CDT和g++来创建我的软件；有时是KDevelop。我知道Mac的主要IDE是Xcode，主要语言是Objective-C。如果可能的话，我希望避免学习Objective-C。我还听说/读到，从C++访问Mac存在一些问题。因此，我的问题是:开发/调试/测试访问所有硬件(U

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